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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 07:54 | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 13:11 | |
| I have Dutchs Kevlar straps. Like ribbons! The pair is less then a quarter the weight and size of one conventional strap! | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 17:17 | |
| I have the 2g per foot stuff, less than 50g for two twelve foot straps. Still sorely tempted... 36g total for suspension would confer bragging rights. | |
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Diamond Dave Member
Posts : 51 Join date : 2018-06-25 Location : Derbyshire
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 18:50 | |
| I like that 1.5 tape could be tempted for that. | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 20:21 | |
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Diamond Dave Member
Posts : 51 Join date : 2018-06-25 Location : Derbyshire
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 20:37 | |
| Now that sounds good..... | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 21:57 | |
| Damn you Dutch! You mean I no longer have the lightest straps! The man just keeps pushing the boundaries. | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 22:08 | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 23:24 | |
| How long are they? What they made from.... Helium??! | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Wed 27 Jun 2018, 23:27 | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Thu 28 Jun 2018, 00:52 | |
| Calibrated scales twice. I shall check again tomorrow and weigh with and without clips.... | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Thu 28 Jun 2018, 05:56 | |
| Are you weighing one, or both straps? Just read the Dutchware description again, Dutch clips weigh in at 7.5g each (the sew-on bein weighs over 9g). So, if you are only weighing one strap, with its clip, , That leaves 12.5g for the webbing. Let's say you have 10ft of webbing, that would be 1.25g per foot! That would be remarkable. Of course, one way of lightening things is to use shorter straps, but that can be a bit limiting. Or instead of strap all the way to the hammock, you could use a whoopie sling, but they weigh more than 2g per foot, so no savings there. If you use a single strand of 2.5mm dyneema, then that is a bit lighter (1.6g/ft). That is what I do here, That's 45g for two straps, totalling 2 x 12ft, each strap is 6ft of 1" dyneema webbing and a 6ft dogbone of 2.5mm hollow braid dyneema. | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Thu 28 Jun 2018, 10:14 | |
| There was something under the scales throwing it off! Lol.
21 gram for both straps, 5 foot long and 15 for clips. Total 36 gram. | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Thu 28 Jun 2018, 12:09 | |
| So what are they? Kevlar 2.2? 5 foot is quite short, I take it you are using them with some other suspension, whoopie slings? Or do you hang from skinny trees, close together? | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Thu 28 Jun 2018, 21:17 | |
| Yeah, they are a bit short. Only use in woods locally when I know the trees! Have whoopies on the hammock and with double ended straps gone round huge trees with ease.
Most of time these are in my little daybag with my pocket edc hammock. Whole system is very compact. | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Fri 29 Jun 2018, 09:11 | |
| To give you an idea of the costs involved in a group buy... If I got 60 feet, that would be US$104.50 shipped, below the import duty rate, just VAT and handling charge. So, that would be £79.65 x 1.2 = £95.58 plus £12 handling charge = £107.58 That would work out at £1.80 per foot. If I got ambitious, and push the order up to just under the duty limit (£135), I could get 100ft, that would come to £125.31 shipped (a bit of a margin for exchange rate vagaries). So, that would be £125.31 x 1.2 = £150.38 plus £12 handling charge = £162.38 That would work out at £1.64 per foot. (You would have to add onto that cost, the cost of me posting it to you. But that wouldn't be very much) | |
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Fri 29 Jun 2018, 16:50 | |
| I could be interested in 30 foot of this. Now I know this is lighter then whoopies I feel a redesign coming! | |
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Gadget Herder of Cats
Posts : 209 Join date : 2018-06-24 Location : North Devon UK
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Fri 29 Jun 2018, 17:15 | |
| You need to be aware it doesn't play nicely with buckles, but here are some other options. Initial tests (from last year) Short on buckles ATM. Only have Adutchable Buckles here, threaded on very easily, was a bit worried it might slip, but found a way to add an extra turn to make it super secure (didn't hang from them tho'). Loop AliensThese are my go-to suspension, got them on all the CLs on my various hammocks. Both types threaded easily enough and held with three turns around the back, Becket HitchHitched onto a 7/64" (2.5mm) Amsteel CL The plain weave held fine, but the twill weave slipped consistently when I sat down, slipped slowly through, creating fair heat by friction. A double Becket hitch fixed it. MSH and ToggleBoth types held fine with the MSH (onto Hammock CL), forgive the rather agricultural toggles, it's not a system I use generally. I use the 2.0 with Loop Aliens exclusively now. A work colleague uses Becket Hitch with his.
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R.lewis New Member
Posts : 27 Join date : 2018-06-27
| Subject: Re: Just When You Thought You Had The Lightest Suspension.... Fri 29 Jun 2018, 17:39 | |
| I'd probably marlin spike it! | |
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